>>>
Four Points by Sheraton Jakarta Thamrin map

Four Points by Sheraton Jakarta Thamrin Map, Address, Transportation & Nearest Stations and Airport

Landmarks
Four Points by Sheraton Jakarta Thamrin
0km
Sarinah Thamrin Plaza
0.09km
Institut Français Indonesia
0.11km
Sarinah deck top
0.13km
Sarinah Duty free
0.18km
PT Pindo Deli Pulp & Paper Mills - Office
0.21km
Asia Pulp & Paper
0.23km
ILO - Country Office For Indonesia
0.29km
Saint Theresia Catholic Church
0.32km
Masjid Al-Hikmah Sarinah
0.34km

Transportation to Four Points by Sheraton Jakarta Thamrin

  • Airport

  • Train Stations

  • Metro Stations

Recommended Hotels similar to Four Points by Sheraton Jakarta Thamrin

TOP
01
1 FL20 #Tuscany Jl. Jenderal Sudirman, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10210, Indonesia
| From USD 419
TOP
01
Luxurious And Strategic 4Br Da Vinci Apartment Rooms
Luxurious And Strategic 4Br Da Vinci Apartment Fitness & Recreational Facilities
Luxurious And Strategic 4Br Da Vinci Apartment Others
View All 17 Photos
Hotel Location
1 FL20 #Tuscany Jl. Jenderal Sudirman, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10210, Indonesia |
5.58KM from city center
12.9km from Halim Perdanakusuma International Airport
6.0km from Tanah Abang Train Station
670m from Senayan MRT Station
800m from Istora Mandiri Station
Read All Reviews
Book "Luxurious And Strategic 4Br Da Vinci Apartment" Now
TOP
02
Jl. Kebon Sirih No.17-19, Menteng, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10340, Indonesia |luxury hotel
| From USD 245
4.6/5
Outstanding
"Great stay!""Great service"
87 Reviews
TOP
02
Park Hyatt Jakarta Hotel Exterior
Park Hyatt Jakarta Rooms
Park Hyatt Jakarta Dining/Meeting Rooms
View All 92 Photos
Hotel Location
Jl. Kebon Sirih No.17-19, Menteng, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10340, Indonesia |
0.19KM from city center
13.6km from Halim Perdanakusuma International Airport
2.2km from Stasiun Pasar Senen
3.9km from Bundaran HI Station
5.5km from Dukuh Atas BNI
Reviews From Real Travelers
This hotel is next level! Stylish, comfortable, efficient. Yet incredibly warm, hospitable and genuinely welcoming. The suite (3004) was a marvel of design and comfort. Luxurious Le Labo bath products, smart toilet, the most comfortable bedding, overlooking the skyline of Jakarta. You will not want to leave your room. Except you must because what awaits you every morning is the best breakfast in the world! Danang the pastry chef makes the best egg benedict and French toast. You will be spoilt for choice in the dining room. But best of all, it's the staff of the Park Hyatt. They are just wonderful! They could not do enough for us.
- Guest User
It's one of the best Park Hyatts I've stayed. Jakarta was chaotic and crowded, but this hotel gave me the calmness I needed. The hotel seems newly built with minmalist designs. Inside, the decors were modern and classy. Loved the rooftop pool. There was a sauna, too! I had my best Indonesian breakfasts here at the Dining Room. Amazing service. The staff were great, and they remembered my name on the second day. Globalists also get happy hour drinks here at the Bar. One thing I disliked was that they seemed okay to allow people smoking inside the KITA Bar. The service also appeared slow here. Overall, it was a great stay!
- Guest User
Read All Reviews
Book "Park Hyatt Jakarta" Now
TOP
03
RRWX+HR2, Superblok Mega, Jalan Kota Baru Bandar, Jl. Benyamin Suaeb No.Kav B6, South Gunung Sahari, Kemayoran, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10610, Indonesia |luxury hotel |Holiday Homes
| From USD 79
4.4/5
Excellent
"Great stay!""Clean and tidy"
193 Reviews
TOP
03
Grand Mercure Jakarta Kemayoran Hotel Exterior
Grand Mercure Jakarta Kemayoran Rooms
Grand Mercure Jakarta Kemayoran Rooms
View All 146 Photos
Hotel Location
RRWX+HR2, Superblok Mega, Jalan Kota Baru Bandar, Jl. Benyamin Suaeb No.Kav B6, South Gunung Sahari, Kemayoran, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10610, Indonesia |
4.26KM from city center
11.9km from Soekarno-Hatta International Airport
3.8km from Kemayoran Station
9.0km from Bundaran HI Station
10.5km from Dukuh Atas BNI
Reviews From Real Travelers
The hotel spots clean facilities and comfortable rooms with nice views. Only cons is breakfast is not as good as expected, eating out wil be much better choice. Lunch/Dinner at the Panameria (see attached photo) lounge opposite the breakfast area is much better choice, but not the best bet in Jakarta.
- leecoolshot
I like this hotel because it's accessible to the industrial areas for business meetings. The hotel room is clean and the bed is very comfortable. The hotel offers good breakfast spread.
- Chun Kiat Na
Read All Reviews
Book "Grand Mercure Jakarta Kemayoran" Now
TOP
04
Jalan M. H. Thamrin Kav. 28-30, Menteng, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10350, Indonesia |luxury hotel |Holiday Homes
| From USD 200
4.6/5
Outstanding
"Great stay!""Great location"
73 Reviews
TOP
04
Grand Hyatt Jakarta Hotel Exterior
Grand Hyatt Jakarta Rooms
Grand Hyatt Jakarta Rooms
View All 196 Photos
Hotel Location
Jalan M. H. Thamrin Kav. 28-30, Menteng, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10350, Indonesia |
1.13KM from city center
19.3km from Halim Perdanakusuma International Airport
4.4km from Tanah Abang Train Station
310m from Bundaran HI Station
949m from Dukuh Atas BNI
Reviews From Real Travelers
Outstanding and beautiful hotel - well organized and attentive staff. Easily comparable to top end hotels I have stayed at in Dubai and elsewhere. Food is excellent - room service is prompt and offers a wide choice from all available restaurants. Indonesia Plaza next door was hugely helpful and convenient.
- Guest User
The Grand Hyatt Jakarta continues to meet my expectations. He laundry service, house keeping and room service were exceptional. All Provided prompt professional service when requested. The staff were welcoming and friendly at all times. A pleasure staying there and I am looking forward to my next stay
- Guest User
Read All Reviews
Book "Grand Hyatt Jakarta" Now
TOP
05
Jl. Asia Afrika No.8, Senayan, Kecamatan Tanah, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10270, Indonesia |luxury hotel |Business travel
| From USD 199
4.5/5
Excellent
"Friendly owner""Clean and tidy"
136 Reviews
TOP
05
Fairmont Jakarta Hotel Exterior
Fairmont Jakarta Rooms
Fairmont Jakarta Rooms
View All 242 Photos
Hotel Location
Jl. Asia Afrika No.8, Senayan, Kecamatan Tanah, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10270, Indonesia |
5.2KM from city center
8.6km from Halim Perdanakusuma International Airport
6.6km from Tanah Abang Train Station
569m from Istora Mandiri Station
709m from Senayan MRT Station
Reviews From Real Travelers
Good service good food , needed help on medication and they got a doctor to me very fast and follow up from reception was excellent - knowing that someone cares about the guest in terms of well being
- Low Hwee Min Jessica
Very spacious room. Clean and good service from front desk and housekeeping
- gnail
Read All Reviews
Book "Fairmont Jakarta" Now
TOP
06
Jl. M.H. Thamrin, Menteng, Kec, Menteng, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10310, Indonesia |luxury hotel |Business travel
| From USD 170
4.6/5
Outstanding
"Friendly owner""Great rooms"
154 Reviews
TOP
06
Mandarin Oriental Jakarta Hotel Exterior
Mandarin Oriental Jakarta Hotel Exterior
Mandarin Oriental Jakarta Rooms
View All 163 Photos
Hotel Location
Jl. M.H. Thamrin, Menteng, Kec, Menteng, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10310, Indonesia |
1.27KM from city center
14.0km from Halim Perdanakusuma International Airport
4.8km from Tanah Abang Train Station
620m from Bundaran HI Station
839m from Dukuh Atas BNI
Reviews From Real Travelers
I was staying at MO Jakarta for quarantine repratriation 10 days in December 2021. At the beginning, I asked the staff via email to provide me bank details for bank transfer before I check-in but it was not provided until the day of check-in then I need to use my personal bank account. Food tasted very good and room was comfortable too. I think the letdown is laundry service that is not clear for pick-up time and one day staff forgot to pick my laundry but it’s okay caused I contacted the guest service. I’d also thank the staff who gave me mineral water in gallon and dispenser. It is such good innitiative and kind gesture. Overall, I am happy to stay at MO Jakarta for isolated 10 days without boredom and discomfort.
- Guest User
The hotel staff are all very friendly. Room is very spacious and clean. Hotel is located at very good location. Staff made my stay very comfortable with little surprise as I got back today after a long day where room has been turn down with special art towel and changed of better slippers with this little attention to detail made so worthwhile to have chosen this hotel during this trip! Thank you. Will definitely choose to stay here when I come next time.
- Guest User
Read All Reviews
Book "Mandarin Oriental Jakarta" Now
TOP
07
Jl. M.H. Thamrin No.1, RT.1/RW.5, Menteng, Kec. Menteng, Kota, Menteng, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10310, Indonesia |luxury hotel
| From USD 176
4.7/5
Outstanding
"Friendly owner""Delicious breakfast"
139 Reviews
TOP
07
Hotel Indonesia Kempinski Jakarta Hotel Exterior
Hotel Indonesia Kempinski Jakarta Rooms
Hotel Indonesia Kempinski Jakarta Rooms
View All 126 Photos
Hotel Location
Jl. M.H. Thamrin No.1, RT.1/RW.5, Menteng, Kec. Menteng, Kota, Menteng, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10310, Indonesia |
1.3KM from city center
16.7km from Halim Perdanakusuma International Airport
3.7km from Tanah Abang Train Station
550m from Bundaran HI Station
889m from Dukuh Atas BNI
Reviews From Real Travelers
We booked 3 rooms for idul adh holiday. One of the room we booked (grand deluxe) got ac problem but the hotel provide fast response and solution. We love the b’fast especially the traditional foods (bakso, bubur ayam, gado2 and Batagor) they all superb!
- Guest User
Hotel staff is extremely helpful. Perfect. GoodnlocTion. Just a small feedback. The small bedpost can me quite dangerous as it's too low to be noticed and may hurt people who don't know about it near the corner of bed.
- Geri
Read All Reviews
Book "Hotel Indonesia Kempinski Jakarta" Now
TOP
08
Jalan Asia Afrika Senayan, RT.1/RW.3, Gelora, Kecamatan Tanah, Tanah Abang, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10270, Indonesia |luxury hotel |Business travel
| From USD 180
4.7/5
Outstanding
"Great stay!""Friendly owner"
81 Reviews
TOP
08
Hotel Mulia Senayan, Jakarta Hotel Exterior
Hotel Mulia Senayan, Jakarta Hotel Exterior
Hotel Mulia Senayan, Jakarta Rooms
View All 93 Photos
Hotel Location
Jalan Asia Afrika Senayan, RT.1/RW.3, Gelora, Kecamatan Tanah, Tanah Abang, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10270, Indonesia |
4.81KM from city center
13.2km from Halim Perdanakusuma International Airport
5.2km from Tanah Abang Train Station
1.6km from Senayan MRT Station
1.9km from Bendungan Hilir
Reviews From Real Travelers
I vacation with family .. the facilities of hotel in mulia senayan very beautiful.. especially at fitness center . This hotel have very big fitness center and many complete equipment and have tennis court I really enjoyed .. very big thanks for staff Ridwan and sukarmin very helpful. Thank you
- Guest User
This stay was really amazing. I was greeted with such kindness and this continued throughout my stay. Room was fantastic, clean and good maintenance. Executive lounge was perfect with best service from Butler and delicious food. I will recommended this hotel to my customer...
- Guest User
Read All Reviews
Book "Hotel Mulia Senayan, Jakarta" Now
TOP
09
Tower Emerald 15FL #BB Jl. Cikini Raya, Menteng, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10330, Indonesia
| From USD 198
TOP
09
Elegant and Spacious 3Br Menteng Park Apartment Rooms
Elegant and Spacious 3Br Menteng Park Apartment Fitness & Recreational Facilities
Elegant and Spacious 3Br Menteng Park Apartment Others
View All 13 Photos
Hotel Location
Tower Emerald 15FL #BB Jl. Cikini Raya, Menteng, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10330, Indonesia |
1.22KM from city center
12.1km from Halim Perdanakusuma International Airport
4.4km from Sudirman Railway Station
3.5km from Bundaran HI Station
5.3km from Dukuh Atas BNI
Read All Reviews
Book "Elegant and Spacious 3Br Menteng Park Apartment" Now
TOP
10
Jl. Borobudur No.10, Pegangsaan, Kec. Menteng, Kota, Menteng, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10320, Indonesia |luxury hotel |Family-friendly
| From USD 216
4.9/5
Perfect
16 Reviews
TOP
10
The Grand Mansion Menteng by the Crest Collection Hotel Exterior
The Grand Mansion Menteng by the Crest Collection Hotel Exterior
The Grand Mansion Menteng by the Crest Collection Rooms
View All 111 Photos
Hotel Location
Jl. Borobudur No.10, Pegangsaan, Kec. Menteng, Kota, Menteng, Central Jakarta, Jakarta, Special Capital Region of Jakarta, 10320, Indonesia |
2.54KM from city center
11.1km from Halim Perdanakusuma International Airport
2.7km from Sudirman Railway Station
3.8km from Bundaran HI Station
4.6km from Dukuh Atas BNI
Reviews From Real Travelers
Exemplary in every aspect, this hotel redefines hospitality through personalized and professional service. Much appreciated for a great hospitality, Ms. Angelina(Head of House), Mr. Fairuz, Lulu, Innes, Salsa, Zidane, Karina, Rifan, Erland and Andry! From the moment I arrived, the staff's warm welcome and attention to detail set the tone for an unforgettable stay. Personalized recommendations showcased their commitment to enhancing our experience. The seamless blend of efficiency and genuine care was evident in every interaction. Whether it was the front office team's insightful suggestions or the housekeeping team's meticulous attention, each staff member demonstrated a passion for ensuring our comfort. This dedication, coupled with luxurious amenities, made our stay a sublime fusion of indulgence and top-notch service. A truly exceptional destination for the discerning traveler.
- kwanghoc9
Thank you The Grand Mansion Menteng for your extraordinary hospitality. I really enjoyed, was happy and satisfied with the hospitality. Nice and elegant atmosphere, i love it. I also appreciate all the nice staff especially to Ms. Mei for your kind welcome and best service and also Mr. Dani for preparing our wonderful breakfast. This is a highly recommended place and I would like to return soon⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Read All Reviews
Book "The Grand Mansion Menteng by the Crest Collection" Now

Choose from More Hotels

5 star

4.6/5Outstanding88 Reviews
Kuningan South Jakarta|5.16km from city center
Thanks to Ms.Nurul (Syailendra Staff) So Helpfull and warm with all customer. Best Service !!! Much variant food and taste very yummy, Staff very humble and helpfull. Recomended to back again Lunch or dinner in Syailendra Resto
From$157
4.4/5Excellent45 Reviews
Kuningan South Jakarta|5.29km from city center
While I have stayed at many places in Jakarta, this was the first at this location. Our family spent two nights here an were very pleased by the place. We had a three bedroom apartment which felt huge compared to regular hotel rooms. All the rooms were large with great views of the city. The balcony is nice for some fresh air, but I would be cautious with smaller children as they may be able to climb up on the rail. The views from the master bed and bath were exceptional and I have not had a room with anything similar before. The pool and play area are large and nicely maintained. Being attached to the mall is nice if you want to eat out, go shopping, or buy groceries. You don't really need to leave the complex if you don't want to. One the negative side, the connection to the mall has stairs which is a small issue for strollers or people with mobility issues. Also the kitchen is not really stocked with some basic cleaning supplies.
From$124
4.7/5Outstanding15 Reviews
Sudirman South Jakarta|5.42km from city center
Facilities: Complete facilities, large rooms, and very cost-effective Hygiene: Hygiene is okay, overall it is relatively tidy Environment: The environment is located in the city center and is very convenient to go anywhere. Service: The service is very warm and everyone is enthusiastic about service.
From$87
4.4/5Excellent72 Reviews
Kuningan South Jakarta|7.01km from city center
The room is large and equipped with apartment facilities such as a water dispenser and kitchen, but most people don't use them. And because there is a water dispenser, there is no bottled water. I could hear the sound of motorcycles outside the room at night. House keeping will open the door directly.
From$101
4.8/5Outstanding53 Reviews
Sudirman South Jakarta|5.03km from city center
The location was excellant as it was on top a huge shopping mall, access to lots of food stores and transport. The business lounge was great with meeting rooms available for private appointments. The only issue I have with the hotel is that is cost 3 to 4x more than most 5 star hotels in Jakarta.
From$299

Show more

Business travel

4.1/5Very Good181 Reviews
South Jakarta|4.78km from city center
I recently had the pleasure of staying at Aston Priority Simatupang during my visit to Jakarta, and I must say, it was a delightful experience overall. Located in the vibrant Simatupang business district, this hotel exceeded my expectations in terms of comfort, service, and amenities. Upon arrival, I was greeted by the friendly and professional staff who ensured a smooth check-in process. The lobby exuded an elegant ambiance with its modern decor and tasteful furnishings. The hotel's attention to detail was evident from the moment I stepped foot inside. The room I stayed in was spacious, well-appointed, and impeccably clean. The comfortable bed provided a restful night's sleep, and the soundproofing ensured a peaceful environment despite the bustling city outside. The contemporary design elements and soothing color palette added a touch of sophistication to the space. The hotel's dining options left a lasting impression. The breakfast buffet at the on-site restaurant was a feast for the senses, offering a wide variety of both local and international dishes. The attentive staff made sure to cater to my dietary preferences, and the quality of the food was exceptional. Additionally, the hotel's bar served a fantastic selection of cocktails, providing a perfect spot to unwind after a busy day. Aston Priority Simatupang boasts impressive amenities that cater to both business and leisure travelers. The fitness center was well-equipped, allowing me to maintain my exercise routine during my stay. The rooftop swimming pool provided a refreshing escape from the city heat, accompanied by breathtaking views of Jakarta's skyline. One aspect that truly stood out during my stay was the exceptional service provided by the hotel staff. From the front desk to the housekeeping team, every staff member was genuinely friendly, professional, and went above and beyond to ensure a memorable stay. Their attention to detail and willingness to assist with any requests made me feel genuinely valued as a guest. The hotel's location is ideal for business travelers due to its proximity to the business district, but it's also well-suited for leisure travelers looking to explore Jakarta. There are shopping malls, restaurants, and entertainment options nearby, offering convenience and a taste of the city's vibrant culture. If I were to offer one area for improvement, it would be the Wi-Fi connectivity, which occasionally experienced minor disruptions during my stay. However, this did not significantly impact my overall experience. In conclusion, my stay at Aston Priority Simatupang was nothing short of fantastic. The combination of stylish accommodations, outstanding service, and convenient location made it an excellent choice for my visit to Jakarta. I would highly recommend this hotel to anyone seeking a comfortable and memorable stay in the city.
From$56
4.3/5Excellent43 Reviews
Senayan Central Jakarta|5.71km from city center
Recommended Hotel for your staycation! Strategic location, good view, delicous taste for everybreakfast also lunch and dinner. Good cleanliness , comfortable room. Excpecially thanks to Mr. Putra who bring me the healty drink at Lobby. Very kind. Surely will come back to Best Western Senayan!
From$36
4.7/5Outstanding42 Reviews
Thamrin Central Jakarta|0.08km from city center
I got a surprise from @iammorrisey staffs (Hera, Immanuel, Arwan, Adit, Aldi, Maya, Wayan and Chandra). I didn't expect that I had just arrived, waiting for the room to be ready... Suddenly they were approached while singing happy birthday with a beautiful birthday cake. I Highly recommend staying here and will be back again. Thank you, Morrissey Hotel Residence Menteng.
From$60
4.1/5Very Good87 Reviews
Thamrin Central Jakarta|1.86km from city center
strategic location, near to shopping centers, friendly receptionist, check in with Mrs. Adefita and invited to join ALL members for free. the staff is friendly, the rooms are minimalist, clean and smell good. for deluxe rooms there's a minibar in the room, 24 hour room service. Thanks, recommended for staycation.
From$46
4.2/5Very Good42 Reviews
Gajah Mada Central Jakarta|3.18km from city center
Staff very helpfull,location was good and food was awesome will back soonest/immediately. Near by GajahMada mall (family mall) Restaurant very cozy and good service due to lunch on streat restaurant. In the room we get full set up of coffee and tea. Ibis Styles Gajah Mada is the best
From$33

Show more

Breakfast

3.9/512 Reviews
Cawang South Jakarta|7.01km from city center
Good value for money, but... please pay attention to the bottom sheets of the bed~~^^
From$17
3.9/541 Reviews
Thamrin Central Jakarta|0.97km from city center
Room is cleaned every day 24 hours front desk and very friendly staff and security. The room was fine for me but if I was in a couple and we had lots of luggage it would be a problem. Very good price for the room. There are 2 laundries 1 minute walk away and they will wash dry and iron clothes for 10000 R a kilo. Lots of great food options great quality and bargains if you enjoy the local cuisine. I stayed on Jalan Jaksa 23 years ago the backpacking scene has long gone now and the 2 remaining tired back in the day hotels that remain are a similar price to this. The taste of Padang food and the smell of clove cigarettes, in the humid air mixed in with a sprinkle of city sewage and street food reignites memories I had long forgotten
From$16
0/50 Reviews
South Jakarta|5.26km from city center
The Kalibata City by Icha Property is an ideal spot for travelers wanting to discover the city. The Kalibata City by Icha Property offers a pleasant stay in South Jakarta for those traveling for business or leisure. The hotel is only 8km from Halim Perdanakusuma International Airport and 8km from Sudirman Railway Station, giving guests a number of convenient transportation options. Seeing South Jakarta's sights from this hotel is easy with Masjid Jami Ar Rahmah, Masjid An-Nur - Perdatam and Cinépolis - Kalibata City Square all close by. After a long day of sightseeing, guests can retire to the comfort of the hotel.
SOLD OUT
0/50 Reviews
South Jakarta|5.35km from city center
With a stay at this apartment, you'll be centrally located in Jakarta, within a 15-minute drive of Taman Mini Indonesia Indah and Blok M Square. This apartment is 9.7 mi (15.6 km) from Grand Indonesia and 9.2 mi (14.7 km) from Bundaran HI.This apartment offers designated smoking areas.Self parking (subject to charges) is available onsite.Make yourself comfortable in your apartment, which features a refrigerator. Complimentary wireless internet access is available to keep you connected. The bathroom has a shower.Conveniences include a desk, and housekeeping is provided once per stay.
From$21
0/50 Reviews
Rawamangun East Jakarta|7.02km from city center
With a stay at this apartment in Jakarta (East Jakarta), you'll be within a 15-minute drive of Taman Mini Indonesia Indah and Grand Metropolitan. This apartment is 11.9 mi (19.2 km) from Grand Indonesia and 11 mi (17.7 km) from Jakarta International Expo.This apartment offers designated smoking areas.Make yourself comfortable in your apartment, which features a refrigerator. Complimentary wireless internet access is available to keep you connected. The bathroom has a shower.
SOLD OUT

Show more

Show more